There was a gun factory in Norwich, Conn., that was owned by H&D Folsom Arms Co., 314 Broadway, New York City, from about 1893 to 1930. They made a lot of very low priced shotguns for H&D Folsom to market under the American Gun Co. And the Crescent Fire Arms Co. Generally the American Gun Co. Doubles had coil springs while the Crescents had a bent piece of spring wire making the very cheapest possible V-Spring. The single barrels made under both company names were called Victor -- 'Victor Special', No. 10 'New Victor', No.

11 'Victor Ejector', etc. These Crescent and American guns were also sold in bulk to 'the trade' marked with virtually any name the buyers requested. The records were destroyed, supposedly in a WW-II paper drive. The late Joe Vorisek studied these guns for years, and put together an estimated serial number chronology, but I'm currantly travelling, and don't have my copy with me. A Damascus barre Knickerboker would be from the early 1900s. This ad from 1905 -- This from H & D Folsom Arms Co. Catalogue No.

Remember, I asked you if the gun was a hammer or hammerless type? It makes a difference. If the gun is a single barrel, it was made in 1897. If it is a outside hammer type double barrel, it was also made in 1897 and if it is a hammerless double barrel, it was made in 1904. Researcher and I have a friendly disagreement about who made several of these old of these old gun. He say that H & D Folsom a very large wholesale and retail sporting goods dealer located in New York City made the guns because they owned Crescent Fire Arms Company and made that claim in their catalogs. I say that Crescent Fire Arms Company made the guns in their factory/plant located in Norwich,CT.

We both agree that Folsom owned Crescent, they bought the company in 1893 and sold it in 1930. Crescent made guns with the KNICKERBOCKER name until 1915. Sierra Generations Family Tree Downloads here. After that they were made by the Stevens Arms & Tool Company. Crescent was the biggest maker ever of 'Trade Brand Name' shotguns making over 2,000,000 shotguns using over 450 known names. Folsom owned Crescent and what ever Folsom wanted, Crescent made and what they wanted was a lot of inexpensive (read cheap) shotguns fast. A word of caution!

Your gun depending on type is from 108 to 115 years old. Guns made back then, were designed and made using the technology and metallurgy of the times and for the ammunition in use back then.

Jul 11, 2011. We have an old double barrel shotgun in 12 ga. It has external hammers. It says 'American Gun Co. Serial number is 141653. Hoping someone can tell me more about it and. I just repaired a side lock hammerless marked 'Knickerbocker' for a buddy. THing was missing it's main spring, sear spring and. NEW YORK, LATE 19TH CENTURY A twelve gauge Knickerbocker model double barrel shotgun manufactured by the American Gun Co., New York, serial number 82194.

Download Lego Marvel Super Heroes Full Version Free. The ammunition was 2 1/2 inch shells loaded with black powder and lead shot. The gun may have damascus barrels. It was not designed or made for modern 3 inch or magnum shells loaded with high pressure smokeless powder or steel shot. My recommendation is don't attempt to shoot the gun.

Thanks Ned It is a hammerless. My dad gave me the gun more than 50 years ago and told me it was twist steel barreled and not to shoot it. After all this time I decided to clean it up and research it. I was already aware of all the info you sent, but just wanted to see if i could find a approximate date of manufacture. By the way, thanks for the 2 flyers that you included. I had found one and it is different than what you sent. I contacted some powder companies about the gun and got some info relative to the shells back then.

They were helpful and informed me of the 2 1/2 in shells. I located a fella that loaded low pressure 2 1/2 in shells and purchased a box that arrived last week. So on Saturday, the 7th i took it to the range where i teach, and fired it. I know it hasn't been fired for over 70 years that I know of. Performed fine and was fun to shoot.

I posted a video on youtube after i shot it titled KNICKERBOCKER Shotgun. Give a looksee and tell me what you think. Regards, Paul. Your 'Trade Brand Name' shotgun was made by the Crescent Fire Arms Company of Norwich, MA (1892 to 1930) for and was sold by the H & D Folsom Company of New York City, a wholesale and retail sporting goods dealer. According to the serial number you give and my serial number-year made tables, the gun was made in 1910. The marking ARMORY STEEL was used by Crescent. Guns with the name Knickerbocker were made by two makers, Crescent Fire Arms before 1915 and Stevens Arms & Tool Company of Chicopee Falls.

MA (1864 to date) after 1915. We have to define the term modern day round. Modern day rounds include shotgun shells 3 inches or more in length and those loaded with high pressure smokeless powder and steel shot. Knickerbocker shotguns were not designed or made for these modern shells. They were designed and made for 2 1/2 inch shells loaded with black powder and early low pressure smokeless powder and lead shot.

Also since none of us can physically see your gun to determine its condition we hesitate to recommend that you can shoot it. What we can say is take the gun gun to a good qualified gunsmith for a hands on examination and if he says it's in a shootable condition, then yes but using only appropriate ammunition.

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